Curse

satanail · Sep 08, 2011, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Hey guys,

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on putting BiP on a typical minion bomber is... Also is the Rt/N minion master build still viable? Boon of Creation could help compensate for the sacrifice.

Toraen · Sep 08, 2011, 10:11 PM // 22:11

You can put BiP on a minion bomber/master, although the sacrifice makes it really vulnerable and could end up turning all your minions against you when you'd least want it. I'd recommend keeping a close eye on it (disabling and microing BiP if necessary) and maybe getting good +Armor equipment for the MM so he's a bit sturdier.

Rt/N MMs are weak in comparison to necromancers, since they don't get as many minions and they're lower level. Even as bombers they're overshadowed since they only get a 12 rank Death Nova (and the armor-affected explosive growth doesn't make up for it). The energy is also worse since they rely entirely upon a strippable enchantment for it. Granted, minions aren't all that great in areas with heavy enchantment removal anyway. I've personally never been wowed by Rt/N MMs, but they still will function.

itiscurtains · Sep 09, 2011, 01:30 AM // 01:30

An mm hero with BiP can take Dark Bond and/or Taste of Death to keep itself alive. It's one of the heroes of LexTalionis' Dwaynaway: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10480463.html.

satanail · Sep 12, 2011, 03:10 AM // 03:10

Thanks very much to both of you!

ShaneOfMach · Sep 16, 2011, 02:54 AM // 02:54

I found the best thing to put BiP on is a Paragon/Necromancer.

Blood is Power
Leader's Comfort
Go for the Eyes
Anthem of Envy
Anthem of Disruption
Stand Your Ground
Fall Back!
Signet of Return

On top of BiPing reguarly without dying, he makes your minions/spirits ridiculously strong, provides constant +24 armor, gives party-wide 33% IAS (can be perma if combined with 2 other heroes), and has a great hard ressurection skill. Also, due to his high armor, he's a very low priority target for enemies.

LexTalionis · Oct 03, 2011, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by itiscurtains

An mm hero with BiP can take Dark Bond and/or Taste of Death to keep itself alive. It's one of the heroes of LexTalionis' Dwaynaway: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...t10480463.html.

Actually, after experimentation, I kind of made the conclusion that taste of death is not really worth the slot. Most of the time, BiP will be healed by someone near instantly, and if not, SoLS or Blood Bond will cover the health loss. Dark Bond is still really really good though - don't underestimate the tanking power of a DB MM necro, especially if you're abusing AoDwayna.

I actually prefer using Vampiric Swarm on the necro to handle the health issues, but I can understand if you don't like that idea.

aspi · Oct 03, 2011, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

I found the best thing to put BiP on is a Paragon/Necromancer.

Blood is Power
Leader's Comfort
Go for the Eyes
Anthem of Envy
Anthem of Disruption
Stand Your Ground
Fall Back!
Signet of Return

On top of BiPing reguarly without dying, he makes your minions/spirits ridiculously strong, provides constant +24 armor, gives party-wide 33% IAS (can be perma if combined with 2 other heroes), and has a great hard ressurection skill. Also, due to his high armor, he's a very low priority target for enemies.

Hmm Gonna try that one, no high energy skills from the looks of it. My Bip necro has some Rit heals to make him even more usefull. This also looks like a good one to try out.

Daddy · Oct 04, 2011, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

I found the best thing to put BiP on is a Paragon/Necromancer.

Blood is Power
Leader's Comfort
Go for the Eyes
Anthem of Envy
Anthem of Disruption
Stand Your Ground
Fall Back!
Signet of Return

On top of BiPing reguarly without dying, he makes your minions/spirits ridiculously strong, provides constant +24 armor, gives party-wide 33% IAS (can be perma if combined with 2 other heroes), and has a great hard ressurection skill. Also, due to his high armor, he's a very low priority target for enemies.

Tried this last night with a Dillway/Discord hybrid... LOVE IT! I dropped Anthem of Disruption for Hexbreaker Aria (have enough rupts with 3x mesmers)... Paired with a ST rit VQ'd 3 EoTN areas back to back without wipe, cons, or any hero dieing. A+++

itiscurtains · Oct 04, 2011, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Funny, a while ago I was running a similar BiPagon build although instead of Leader's Comfort, AoD, and Sig of Return I think I had Aggressive Refrain, "Help Me!" (weaker than Leader's Comfort but without the long activation time) and Slayer's Spear. Utility elites work quite nicely on paras since most of their own elites are rather meh.